⅓ rule vs. frost line

How deep should the post be?

Two rules compete for the bottom of every post hole. The deeper one wins. This does both in one pass — frost line included.

Don't know it? Look up your state — this field fills itself when you arrive from a state page.

These take the strain — they get 6″ more depth.

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Hole depth includes 6″ of gravel under the post for drainage.

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Why the frost line outranks the ⅓ rule

The ⅓ rule is about leverage: a third of the post underground keeps the wind from using your fence as a sail. The frost line is about physics underground: freeze the soil under a post base and it lifts — an inch a winter, until the gate won't latch. Leverage you can argue with. Frost you can't. Find your state's line here and this page fills it in automatically.

Post depth — quick answers

How deep should a fence post go?

One third of the height above ground, never less than 24″, and never shallower than your frost line — the deepest of those three wins. A 6 ft privacy fence in frost-free country wants 24″; the same fence in Minnesota wants the frost line's 42–60″.

Why do gate and corner posts go deeper?

They carry the pull. A gate slams and sags on its post daily, and corner posts take tension from two directions of fence. The extra 6″ of burial is the cheapest rigidity you'll ever buy.

What's the gravel at the bottom for?

Drainage. Six inches of gravel under the post keeps the end grain out of standing water, which is what actually rots posts. Concrete around, gravel below — each doing its own job.

Concrete or gravel backfill?

Concrete for gates, corners, ends, and anything in wind or frost country; well-tamped gravel is a legitimate choice for line posts in stable soil and drains better. This site does the concrete math either way — the hole size is the same.